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supreme court is expected to tackle laws governing same-sex marriage. it will hear two arguments, one involves the constitutionality of the defense of marriage act which denies federal benefits to same sex spouses. the case was brought by 83-year-old edith windsor who was required to pay hundreds of thousands in estate taxes when her long-time partner died. an appeals court ruled that violated the constitution's equal protection clause. the supreme court will look into proposition 8. striking it down could have an immediate impact on gay spouses denied benefits. casey wayan introduces us to a california couple with a lot riding on the issue. >> reporter: november 1 was a big day. did you think four years later you would be fighting a legal battle for the rights that other married couples enjoy? >> on that particular day it wasn't on our minds. >> reporter: three days later californians voted to outlaw future marriages. their union is recognized by the state, but not by the federal government tracy served as a 12-year highly decorated army veteran. >> es
supreme court is expected to tackle laws governing same-sex marriage. it will hear two arguments, one involves the constitutionality of the defense of marriage act which denies federal benefits to same sex spouses. the case was brought by 83-year-old edith windsor who was required to pay hundreds of thousands in estate taxes when her long-time partner died. an appeals court ruled that violated the constitution's equal protection clause. the supreme court will look into proposition 8. striking...
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law or could change u.s. law. former republican attorney general dick thornburgh who helped negotiate this treaty on behalf of president george bush said emphatically it would have no effect on u.s. law, not now, not ever. is he wrong? >> well, i respectfully disagree with the former attorney general's conclusions. i look at the treaty and i see one provision that arguably sets in place international entitlement rights. another provision that can be read to undermine the rights of parents to make decisions on how best to educate and otherwise care for their children with disabilities. and another provision of the treaty that can be read to obligate the united states government to pay for abortion services. >> you are just interpreting things. it doesn't -- it never uses the word abortion. it basically says on -- that disabled people should have the same access to health care that other people have. that nondisabled people have overseas. again, we're talking about overseas. >> it does refer to reproductive rights a
law or could change u.s. law. former republican attorney general dick thornburgh who helped negotiate this treaty on behalf of president george bush said emphatically it would have no effect on u.s. law, not now, not ever. is he wrong? >> well, i respectfully disagree with the former attorney general's conclusions. i look at the treaty and i see one provision that arguably sets in place international entitlement rights. another provision that can be read to undermine the rights of parents...
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>> well, then same-sex marriage essentially becomes law in california and it was about the referendum. most court watchers would say defensive marriage act is the most likely of all the challenges to take up. the thinking they want to weigh in on a question dealing with what role the federal government can play when it comes to the issue of marriage because and we can't say this enough, throughout history, marriage is regulated by the states so, you know, important thing to consider there. >> and just quickly, also, joe, when it comes to the defensive marriage act, it is important for people to know if the court decides to adjudicate, it does not mean that that's the law of the land, that people can start getting married any which way they want to. correct? >> no. it means they're taking it up. they still have a decision that's down the road. there's a variety of different ways they could decide on doma. you know, they don't have to decide on equal protection grounds but the narrow question of benefits or certain benefits or certain tax breaks that married people who happen to be same
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person within its jurisdiction to equal protection of the laws. justice anthony ken and his majority opinion of the lawrence case in 2003 which declared anti-sodomy laws unconstitutional. does the statute make it a crime for persons of the same sex to engage in intimate sexual conduct, violate the due process clause? yes. a statute making it a crime for two persons of the same sex to engage in sexual conduct violates the due process law. quote liberty protects the person from unwarranted government intrusions and freedom extends beyond spatial bounds, liberty presumes an autonomy of self-that includes freedom of thought, belief and expression. that certain intimate conduct the defendants are adults and their ability to declare the issue as one related to the right of engaging in certain sexual conduct de means the claim the claimant brought forward. what a story. joining me now, chad griffin and gay rights advocate, elizabeth bench. i hope i set it up the best i can. i can't write the majority opinion next year. your thoughts? >> i couldn't have s
person within its jurisdiction to equal protection of the laws. justice anthony ken and his majority opinion of the lawrence case in 2003 which declared anti-sodomy laws unconstitutional. does the statute make it a crime for persons of the same sex to engage in intimate sexual conduct, violate the due process clause? yes. a statute making it a crime for two persons of the same sex to engage in sexual conduct violates the due process law. quote liberty protects the person from unwarranted...
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those in the dissenting opinion argued federal law shouldn't trump state law finding father knowingly abandoned his parental responsibilities in every respect. lawyers for dustin brown say, quote, he is a good parent and veronica is happy, healthy and thriving. since she went to live with her biological father, the couple say they have only been allowed to speak with her once. >> we told her we loved her, and she said i love you, too, and that was it. >> but matt and melanie haven't given up. they are taking their case to the united states supreme court. >> you don't ever stop fighting for your child, ever. >> the united states supreme court, according to our legal experts, doesn't take that many cases. they get 7,000 cases a year, and they take about 80. why do you think they should take this one? >> so many families have been hurt by the misuse of this law, and, you know, we've said before, too, we don't think it's necessarily a bad law or bad intentions, but it's definitely being misused. it doesn't apply. she wasn't remove for an existent indian home. never with an indian home. wi
those in the dissenting opinion argued federal law shouldn't trump state law finding father knowingly abandoned his parental responsibilities in every respect. lawyers for dustin brown say, quote, he is a good parent and veronica is happy, healthy and thriving. since she went to live with her biological father, the couple say they have only been allowed to speak with her once. >> we told her we loved her, and she said i love you, too, and that was it. >> but matt and melanie haven't...
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for the denver school board in 1955, working for the successful passage of colorado's fair employment law land serving on naacp denver and colorado boards. in the mid-50's his father threatened to cut off his college tuition if he did not end his political involvement. as howard remembered it my dad put a couple of checks on the dining room table. the checks for the next year's tuition and said get out of activism and you can have those checks. and this is what howard did. i tore them up in his face, and that was the end of my college education, and it was at that time that howard became a labor activist. howard moved to san francisco in 1967, with his lover, roger. he continued to work in the antiwar movement as a organizer in opposition to the vietnam war and staff organizer for the national peace coalition. his efforts and those of other progressive activists to bring into the movement -- to bring labor into the movement were very successful when the northern california labor councils were the first to actually oppose the vietnam war. with the rise of an organized movement in the gay c
for the denver school board in 1955, working for the successful passage of colorado's fair employment law land serving on naacp denver and colorado boards. in the mid-50's his father threatened to cut off his college tuition if he did not end his political involvement. as howard remembered it my dad put a couple of checks on the dining room table. the checks for the next year's tuition and said get out of activism and you can have those checks. and this is what howard did. i tore them up in his...
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equal protection of the laws. liberty is a pretty profound notion in this country. >> it is. >> pursuit of happiness is in our declaration. why not? >> here is the thing, if you are gay and alive in our time in america, we're living in a kind of a policy and civil rights renaissance. we have seen extraordinary leadership from other parts of government already. don't we judge, chris, presidents by whether they stand up to the moment of history in which they live? we have seen president obama step up to this issue, gay marriage -- >> getting rid of don't ask, don't tell. now saying he won't endorse doma. >> and our military has stepped up. >> even the marines are doing a great job. >> even the marines are. now we have to see will the supreme court also keep pace in our time with the other major institutions. >> chad, you're the expert. i've supported it, my wife has for years, the human rights campaign. you have a hell of a name, human rights campaign. it's a great name. the liberty clause. if you get to the idea of
equal protection of the laws. liberty is a pretty profound notion in this country. >> it is. >> pursuit of happiness is in our declaration. why not? >> here is the thing, if you are gay and alive in our time in america, we're living in a kind of a policy and civil rights renaissance. we have seen extraordinary leadership from other parts of government already. don't we judge, chris, presidents by whether they stand up to the moment of history in which they live? we have seen...
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the governor has made it clear that he is ready to make it law. if signed into law, in fact, that would cause quite a problem pour those folks. michigan would join 23 other states. michigan is considered the birthplace of organized labor. it's now on the verge of becoming the 24th right to work state. thanks, everyone. suzanne malveaux is up next with "newsroom international." have a great day. >> welcome to "newsroom international." i'm suzanne malveaux. here's what's going on right now. a shocker on the jobs front. 146,000 new jobs added. that is almost twice as many jobs created in november than expected. the unemployment rate falls even further below 8%. we now have the lowest unemployment rate in four years at 7.7%. we're following the markets to see if it has an impact as well. cnn has now learned that pentagon officials are reworking their plans for possible military action against syria. that is after now confirmed reports emerging from syria that forces loyal to president bashir al assad are preparing bombs with chemical weapons. syrian s
the governor has made it clear that he is ready to make it law. if signed into law, in fact, that would cause quite a problem pour those folks. michigan would join 23 other states. michigan is considered the birthplace of organized labor. it's now on the verge of becoming the 24th right to work state. thanks, everyone. suzanne malveaux is up next with "newsroom international." have a great day. >> welcome to "newsroom international." i'm suzanne malveaux. here's what's...
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those laws are deemed by critics as union killers. >> right to work laws, they don't have to do with economics. they have everything to do with politics. what they're really talking about is giving you the right to work for less money. what we shouldn't be doing is trying to take away your rights to bargain for better wages and working conditions. >> hey, it only took him four years in office to say it. here's candidate obama back in 2007. >> understand this. if american workers are being denied their right to organize and collectively bargain when i'm in the white house i'll put on a comfortable pair of shoes myself. i'll walk on that picket line with you as president of the united states. >> why did the president pick now to so voluntary valley insert himself in this issue? let's put it splu the spthrough cycle. i think it's about politics. like wisconsin, which he completely ignored. again, for political reasons. so, the way i sigh it is right now he's focusing on the fiscal cliff. he will have to give in on entitlement issues and up to him to focus on how to make the left happy a
those laws are deemed by critics as union killers. >> right to work laws, they don't have to do with economics. they have everything to do with politics. what they're really talking about is giving you the right to work for less money. what we shouldn't be doing is trying to take away your rights to bargain for better wages and working conditions. >> hey, it only took him four years in office to say it. here's candidate obama back in 2007. >> understand this. if american...
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there was a 1972 case where the supreme court was asked to rule on guy marriage law in minnesota and they basically said there's no substantial federal question there. it's not for us and kicked it out. but that wasn't a very -- that wasn't a very heavy intellectual lifting there. this is the first time they will confront this case directly for this issue. >> pete, last time we saw a highly controversial case in obama care, we saw a full court press really lobby the justices and put a lot of pressure on them recognizing that they will set the tone of what this court looks like. do you think we'll see that hard lobbying again? >> reporter: well, i don't think it will be quite like that, because there isn't as much money at stake like he in obama care. obviously, to many people on both sides of this issue, it's an important values question. it will attract lots of friends of court briefs. remember, only nine states chose to make same-sex marriage legal, and many other states, the majority of states in the u.s. have decided not to allow it or amended their constitutions to forbid it. so
there was a 1972 case where the supreme court was asked to rule on guy marriage law in minnesota and they basically said there's no substantial federal question there. it's not for us and kicked it out. but that wasn't a very -- that wasn't a very heavy intellectual lifting there. this is the first time they will confront this case directly for this issue. >> pete, last time we saw a highly controversial case in obama care, we saw a full court press really lobby the justices and put a lot...
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biden is the law's original sponsor. since the law's passage in 1994, domestic violence has dropped 58%. the senate has already passed a bipartisan bill with additional protections for undocumented immigrants, members of the lgbt community, and native americans. but republicans in the house want those protections removed. i think the talks are serious but the prospects dim. the senate democratic leadership aide told the hill newspaper. house republicans don't seem to be learning the lessons of the campaign and election. meanwhile, sources tell "the huffington post" kantor is on board as long as one thing is stripped from the bill, a key protection for native american women. cantor is refusing to accept any added protections for native american women that would give expanded jurisdiction to tribes and is pressuring democrats to concede on that front. in the meantime, the crew over at fox news is giving advice on women can protect themselves against violence. get a gun. fox news contributor dana perino slugged that suggest
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we know that federal law trumps state law. so i think not only will the federal -- the feds have an obligation to get in there and ensure that their laws are upheld. >> laura: their laws are on the books. whether immigration, their laws are on the book and we should enforce it shootout with devout atheist who wants to put the kibosh on christmas. set your >> thanks for staying with us, i'm laura ingraham in for bill o'reilly. factor flashback. this year's ongoing christmas situation. many of the actions against public displays are christmas are taken of course by atheist organizations. bill recently spoke to david silverman president of the american atheist group. >> really trying to give point of view here. you are atheist, nonbeliever, i respect that that's fine. i don't look down on you. i don't think you are a pinhead. >> thank you. >> bill: if you want to be an atheist that's why we have america. be it. why are you messing around with my tradition? why are you messing around with christmas? just leave it alone. is there a
we know that federal law trumps state law. so i think not only will the federal -- the feds have an obligation to get in there and ensure that their laws are upheld. >> laura: their laws are on the books. whether immigration, their laws are on the book and we should enforce it shootout with devout atheist who wants to put the kibosh on christmas. set your >> thanks for staying with us, i'm laura ingraham in for bill o'reilly. factor flashback. this year's ongoing christmas...
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by 1967 only 16 states still had the laws on the books. in the decades between 1947 and 1967 the years the supreme court was staying mom on the issue, most states decided on their own. the court was following on their heels, following the heels of public opinion. this is a big debate in the legal world. the supreme court influenced by american public opinion? these are nine people who could completely ignore the will of the people. they are appointed for life. they can totally ignore us if they choose. many legal experts say that's not how it works. they are swayed by what the people think about issues. they anoubsed they would hear two cases involving same-sex marriage. that's huge. they would hear the prop 8 case out of california. that's the california ballot proposition which amended the california constitution to define marriage between a man and a woman. the court will some time this year whether that amendment is unconstitutional. but the court also said it would hear a challenge to the defense of marriage act passed under president
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a federal appeals court struck down the law earlier this year. the court's decision to weigh in on marriage equality came as same-sex couples began marrying in washington state yesterday. on election day voters there and in maryland and in maine made history when they became the first states to approve same-sex marriage at the ballot box. joining us now to discuss is steve, chair of the gay and lesbian victory fund. great to have you. >> nice to be here, alex. s. >> so a lot of tea leaf read and arm chair prognostication around this. i am by no means a supreme court expert, but when i saw that they were taking up both doma and prop 8, question as to whether they would take up inform i them at all, it seemed to me a signal that the court was ready to make a big decision, and i just cannot imagine, especially when you have conservatives like john roberts, who maybe sort of a fiscal conservative and vote in support of something like citizens united, but socially does not seem to be as conservative as, say, scalia. that they would be looking at the a
a federal appeals court struck down the law earlier this year. the court's decision to weigh in on marriage equality came as same-sex couples began marrying in washington state yesterday. on election day voters there and in maryland and in maine made history when they became the first states to approve same-sex marriage at the ballot box. joining us now to discuss is steve, chair of the gay and lesbian victory fund. great to have you. >> nice to be here, alex. s. >> so a lot of tea...
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joining us is the chief justice professor at constitutional law at nyu law school. thank you for being here. that's a great title. >> thanks, ezra. >> my question is simple, why now? >> in part, the court is a passive institution. it can't reach out and grab cases. but i think there's an additional layer to your question. why didn't the court say we're not going to review this case? even if it's being petitioned to us. one of the cases that we didn't look at in your excellent introduction is a 1956 case called maine versus maine, this is right after brown versus board of education when they are handing out these orders extending the principle at public accommodations. but it has a marriage case and gets rid of it and says this is too soon. and so it sits 11 years later to take it up. many of us thought this is exactly what's going to happen with the prop 8 case. the doma case is slightly different for reasons we can go into. but many of us thought the prop 8 case it's going to go back. it's going to be legal in california but nowhere else and the court is going to w
joining us is the chief justice professor at constitutional law at nyu law school. thank you for being here. that's a great title. >> thanks, ezra. >> my question is simple, why now? >> in part, the court is a passive institution. it can't reach out and grab cases. but i think there's an additional layer to your question. why didn't the court say we're not going to review this case? even if it's being petitioned to us. one of the cases that we didn't look at in your excellent...
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we know that federal law trumps state law. so i think not only will the federal -- the feds have an obligation to get in there and ensure that their laws are upheld. >> laura: their laws are on the books. whether immigration, their laws are on the book and we should enforce it shootout with devout atheist who wants to put the kibosh on christmas. christmas. set your with the spark cash card from capital one, sven gets great rewards for his small business! how does this thing work? oh, i like it! [ garth ] sven's small business earns 2% cash back on every purche, everday! woo-hoo!!! so that's ten security gators, right? put them on my spark card! why settle for less? testing hot tar... great sinesses deserve great rewards! [ male announcer ] the spark business card from capital one. choose unlimited rewards with 2% cash back or double miles on every purchase, every day! what's in your wallet? here's your invoice. adt can help you turn on a few lights. access cameras from anywhere to help you keep an eye on things. even bring fa
we know that federal law trumps state law. so i think not only will the federal -- the feds have an obligation to get in there and ensure that their laws are upheld. >> laura: their laws are on the books. whether immigration, their laws are on the book and we should enforce it shootout with devout atheist who wants to put the kibosh on christmas. christmas. set your with the spark cash card from capital one, sven gets great rewards for his small business! how does this thing work? oh, i...
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governor snider claims his right to work law isn't bad for unions? >> i do not view this as something against the unions. i support the unions in many regards. i support their right to organize. i encourage them to present the best cases. >> the governor is dead wrong. when right to work laws pass, union membership goes down along with workers wages. this is part of the republican effort to dismantle the democratic base by union busting. let's bring in lansing mayor. you're steaming about this. you just heard what the governor said. he wants to encourage the unions and encourages people to join. >> it's the ultimate double speak. democracy is under attack. it's not hyperbolic to say democracy is under attack. to attack them, they are locking people out of the capital. they are using state police. those weren't my police that maced folks. they are using state police to block people from entering the capital. i don't blame the individual officers. their orders come from them. so it's an assault on democracy in so many ways. you talk about the fiscal cl
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is equality then the law of the land? is marriage equality the law of land? >> it would depend on how the supreme court rules. if it upholds the ruling as it currently is, it would immediately affect california and marriages would begin again here in this state. and it would prevent any other state from granting a right and then revoking that right as california did. but, look, this court can also go back to judge vaughn walker's ruling which was a broad and sweeping victory that looked at equal protection and it was in the realm of loving v. virginia and brown v. board. when you talk about doma, you don't have to look further than the plaintiff in this case. the aclu brought that case with edie. she had been married to her wife for 20 years. got married in canada. moved to new york and, unfortunately, her wife passed away. and you know what the government did when her wife passed away? they sent her a tax bill for $300,000. they wouldn't do that to you and your wonderful wife, and they wouldn't do that to other straight couples in this country. it's not fair
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, everything from tax laws to social security and health and welfare benefits. the defense of marriage act was challenged by edie windsor from new york. she had a partner for over 40 years. they were married in 2007 in canada, a new york recognized their marriage when miss windsor's partner, her spouse died. her spouse left her entire estate to edie windsor. because of the defense of marriage act edie windsor was left with almost a 400,000 dollar federal estate tax that someone who was the spouse of an opposite sex coup weill not have had to pay. so their defense of marriage act can being challenged as violating the equal protection guarantee in the fifth amendment. >> warner: and how sweeping, if the ruling were in favor of edie windsor, how widely would that apply nationwide? >> well, the challenge here to doma really is that only this provision in doma is unconstitutional as applied to legally married same-sex couples. the argument is that that provision discriminates against them by treating them differently from legally married opposite sex couple its. so i
, everything from tax laws to social security and health and welfare benefits. the defense of marriage act was challenged by edie windsor from new york. she had a partner for over 40 years. they were married in 2007 in canada, a new york recognized their marriage when miss windsor's partner, her spouse died. her spouse left her entire estate to edie windsor. because of the defense of marriage act edie windsor was left with almost a 400,000 dollar federal estate tax that someone who was the...
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some of the deductions, raise the law right under 250 and i would be fine with that. until people are willing to get serious and say these are the specific deductions we're talking about and willing to look at the consequences it's hard to take any seriously. >> we were talking during the break about specifics and how terrifying it is for the republicans to get into specifics because as rez ra outlines the patient convulses as it were. where is the hope in all this that a deal will get done? >> i don't think anybody wants to go over the cliff at the end of the day. we now have a really big round number from john boehner but nothing specific within it and as we went through and broke down this various deductions and loopholes many are popular, many of them make an enormous amount of sense and most of them benefit the middle class, not just the rich. i don't know where this -- where that part of the discussion goes because you're talking about unicorns earlier. they're imaginary beasts and this $800 billion through loopholes and deduction is about as real as a unicorn.
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and our laws do not provide that. in the case of homophobia, we are literally members of the family. we are sons and daughters of heterosexual parents. we are brothers and sisters. we are literally kin, blood kin. and yet we deny the lgbt member of the family the same legal protections and rights that they enjoy. it's irrational. >> steve, we -- you know, this has been called a guy rights issue, but really, it is a civil rights issue. and when you hear an argument, an eloquent argument like that from george takei, it underscores the fact that this is an irrational argument, and it's almost sort of an inevitable, it's the inevitable course for the united states. i wonder what you make of house republicans who have tried to stand in the way of marriage equality. do they have a platform to stand on if the -- given the fact that the supreme court has decided to take up prop 8 and doma. >> i think it's very clear from the results of this election that the republican party, if they're going to succeed long-term, if they're
and our laws do not provide that. in the case of homophobia, we are literally members of the family. we are sons and daughters of heterosexual parents. we are brothers and sisters. we are literally kin, blood kin. and yet we deny the lgbt member of the family the same legal protections and rights that they enjoy. it's irrational. >> steve, we -- you know, this has been called a guy rights issue, but really, it is a civil rights issue. and when you hear an argument, an eloquent argument...
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. >>> still ahead, the new health care law means new taxes are about to go into effect. but who's going to be footing the bill for that one? joining me next, "the washington post's" ez ra klein breaks it down. >>> does bad luck rub off? mitt romney's weekend meet-up with fighter manny pacquiao. a reminder, today's question of the day. should the deejays who were at the front of that hoax shoulder the blame in the london hospital death of a nurse? share your thoughts on my twitter or facebook pages. we'll take a look at some of your responses coming up. anncr: some politicians seem to think medicare and... social security are just numbers in a budget. well, we worked hard for those benefits. we earned them. and if washington tries to cram decisions about the future... of these programs into a last minute budget deal... we'll all pay the price. aarp is fighting to protect seniors with responsible... solutions that strengthen medicare and... social security for generations to come. we can do better than a last minute deal... that would hurt all of us. to the best vacation s
. >>> still ahead, the new health care law means new taxes are about to go into effect. but who's going to be footing the bill for that one? joining me next, "the washington post's" ez ra klein breaks it down. >>> does bad luck rub off? mitt romney's weekend meet-up with fighter manny pacquiao. a reminder, today's question of the day. should the deejays who were at the front of that hoax shoulder the blame in the london hospital death of a nurse? share your thoughts...
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actually a law you have to have a work permit, something like that that might not be too comfortable for people on the hard left. are you comfortable with making that kind of compromise as a democrat now? >> i think we need to have a pathway to citizenship. i'm the grandson of a greek immigrant. >> what about enforcement? you're going for the low hanging fruit here. what about the tough stuff. being a democrat. you got to be very weak on enforcement, don't you? >> i don't know if you have to or not. i think -- >> see how -- >> see. >> what they have to do in their heart and what they believe is right. that's what i'm going to do whatever the issue might be. i will be guided by common sense and my heart and my upbringing and whey think is fair and right for all people. >> but you're going to accept the democratic party sort of mainstream arguments, right, all of them? >> yes, yeah. >> that's quite a switch to go from being a republican who is upset and wants to be an independent and now you're saying i'm willing not to be an independent. >> i'm willing to be a democrat because i think
actually a law you have to have a work permit, something like that that might not be too comfortable for people on the hard left. are you comfortable with making that kind of compromise as a democrat now? >> i think we need to have a pathway to citizenship. i'm the grandson of a greek immigrant. >> what about enforcement? you're going for the low hanging fruit here. what about the tough stuff. being a democrat. you got to be very weak on enforcement, don't you? >> i don't know...
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the fear is that it could result in the strict implementation of muslim law. so things that the credit critics are concerned about women might be required to wear head scarves if this constitution is passed. it could result in the segregation of men and women in public and religious leaders they say would have the final say on civil matters. analysts say another thing to keep in mind is that the draft the way it's written is very ambiguous and it leaves a great deal open to interpretation. one egyptian blogger summed things up this way, shepard. he said if the draft does become law, egypt essentially is going to follow in the footsteps of the taliban and that is something that has many secular egyptians and christian egyptians, liberal egyptians very worried about and that's why they oppose david lee, thank you. it's not rocket science. that today from vice president joe biden on lawmaker's efforts to prevent a potential economic crisis. he says the so-called fiscal cliff problem could be fixed in 15 minutes if republicans would only agree to higher taxes on h
the fear is that it could result in the strict implementation of muslim law. so things that the credit critics are concerned about women might be required to wear head scarves if this constitution is passed. it could result in the segregation of men and women in public and religious leaders they say would have the final say on civil matters. analysts say another thing to keep in mind is that the draft the way it's written is very ambiguous and it leaves a great deal open to interpretation. one...
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is it constitutional for a federal law to say that the government will not recognize marriages even when they're legal in the states, so that if married couples get married in the nine states where it's now legal, the federal government doesn't recognize those marriages. there's a question about whether that's unconstitutional discrimination, but if the supreme court does strike down doma, it doesn't say anything about whether the states must permit same-sex marriage, it only says if they do, the federal government must recognize them. so it's the proposition 8 case from california that potentially raises the bigger question. now, as it comes to the supreme court, it comes in a very narrow way. the court of appeals, which agreed with the trial court, that proposition 8 striking down gay marriage in california was unconstitutional, it ruled in a very narrow way. it said california was wrong to grant the right and then take it away. you can't do that, apeeldz court said. if the supreme court upholds that ruling, it would apply only to california, but it's possible having taken the case tha
is it constitutional for a federal law to say that the government will not recognize marriages even when they're legal in the states, so that if married couples get married in the nine states where it's now legal, the federal government doesn't recognize those marriages. there's a question about whether that's unconstitutional discrimination, but if the supreme court does strike down doma, it doesn't say anything about whether the states must permit same-sex marriage, it only says if they do,...
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it was against the law at the federal level for women to vote. then a few states boldly marched ahead. >> reporter: this political science professor at uw called this an interesting bind for the president, saying my crens is they will look the other way, but find a couple high profile people who are well beyond the bounds of our new law and bust them, but leave everyone else completely alone. if that happens, the target could be on frank snarr, but he thinks he's just the first and more private smoking rooms will soon pop up. >> and more power to them. if they can raise revenue for the state, that's what it's all about. that's what we're in business for. >> now, the bar owner stresses the buying or selling of marijuana inside his club is strictly prohibited. >>> well, still ahead this morning, as fighting continues in syria, a new move by rebel forces to improve coordination could bring on support from the united states. >> and in london, more backlash over the death of a nurse who fell victim to a radio show prank. find out what people are sayin
it was against the law at the federal level for women to vote. then a few states boldly marched ahead. >> reporter: this political science professor at uw called this an interesting bind for the president, saying my crens is they will look the other way, but find a couple high profile people who are well beyond the bounds of our new law and bust them, but leave everyone else completely alone. if that happens, the target could be on frank snarr, but he thinks he's just the first and more...
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so i think that doma law goes by the wayside. the second question is an equal protection question and goes specifically at the california referendum which -- >> the proposition 8. >> the proposition, proposition 8, which makes it illegal under california law to have gay marriage. they will look at that under the equal protection clause. i think it's a little bit hazardous to anticipate where the court will go on that question, and i would be reluctant to do that, but that's kind of an equal protection question. the request he is will the court be ahead of where the public is or behind the public. this is a question that eventually sooner or later, probably sooner, the public will come around to recognize and already is showing by the polls that marriage equality should be considered a fundamental constitutional right. >> professor peterson, to julian's point, despite its rulings on the president's health care law, on immigration, this court maintains a conservative tilt. is this necessarily good news for supporters of same-sex ma
so i think that doma law goes by the wayside. the second question is an equal protection question and goes specifically at the california referendum which -- >> the proposition 8. >> the proposition, proposition 8, which makes it illegal under california law to have gay marriage. they will look at that under the equal protection clause. i think it's a little bit hazardous to anticipate where the court will go on that question, and i would be reluctant to do that, but that's kind of...
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we're not talking about things -- >> within the law or lack of law for that matter. we see case after case, as i like to call it the day after marriage. won't exactly feel like that. a lot of people will wake up and realize, marriage doesn't solve every problem. it doesn't solve immigration, it doesn't solve the poverty of our country and our community is facing. it won't solve so many of the issues, economic issues that are faced by lgbt people in this country. >> one of the important arguments made around marriage equality has been about health care, right? >> one of the big arguments made is i got to be able to cover my partner, my spouse, my beloved under my health care. if we had universal health care access, then marriage would become less important for straight and gay couples. >> i think that's true. but i do think that getting over the marriage hurdle puts us well beyond where we need to be to get through some of these other really legal hurdles. i look at marriage, look, i wasn't a good straight married person. anybody who wants to get married, i'm like so
we're not talking about things -- >> within the law or lack of law for that matter. we see case after case, as i like to call it the day after marriage. won't exactly feel like that. a lot of people will wake up and realize, marriage doesn't solve every problem. it doesn't solve immigration, it doesn't solve the poverty of our country and our community is facing. it won't solve so many of the issues, economic issues that are faced by lgbt people in this country. >> one of the...
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>> they're going to be able to fall back on federal law. it's one reason why smokers in colorado and washington state shouldn't celebrate too much. there's still a lot of ways in which they can get in trouble. and one of them is violating the drug-free workplace laws. >> the book -- >> there's a point that it doesn't get made enough in the medical marijuana conversation. and that is the rights of biggest people. what's the federal government going to do in washington state and colorado. are they going to allow the market to be regulated. if they don't, it's a terrible scenario. they're not going to be able to stop the legalization of possession at the state level. the feds don't have the resources to come in and bust everyday pot smokers. so you've got a base of legal customers. if you don't allow the creation of business people, a community business people to supply those customers, it's just a boom for the black market. >> your connection to pot has deep family roots. i understand you're working on a book and during the course of some res
>> they're going to be able to fall back on federal law. it's one reason why smokers in colorado and washington state shouldn't celebrate too much. there's still a lot of ways in which they can get in trouble. and one of them is violating the drug-free workplace laws. >> the book -- >> there's a point that it doesn't get made enough in the medical marijuana conversation. and that is the rights of biggest people. what's the federal government going to do in washington state and...